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Grandma and Grandpa, Again
We raised our kids. Now we're raising our grandsons.

* Our Story * What Changed * Custody and the Law * Help with Money and Doctors * Second Time Around * Lester's Corner * Our First-Month Questions

Welcome, and thank you for stopping by. I'm Brenda Fuller. My husband Lester and I live just outside Chattanooga, Tennessee, on two acres with a garden, a tire swing and more Matchbox cars in the yard than a body ought to step on in the dark. Lester is 56. He retired from the carpet mill after thirty-one years and now drives a school bus, which he says is the same as the mill only louder. I'm 52 and I work in the cafeteria at the elementary school. We have been married thirty-three years and we are members of the Baptist church down the road.

Since February of 1997 we have been raising our two grandsons, Austin, who is 9 now, and Chad, who is 6. I'm putting up this page because when it happened to us we didn't know a soul in the same boat, and we didn't know where to start. It turns out there are thousands of us. We just weren't finding each other. If you're a grandma or grandpa sitting up late with a pile of papers you don't understand, this is for you.

Our Story

Our daughter Michele is our youngest. She was a sweet little girl who loved horses and sang in the youth choir. Somewhere in her twenties she got mixed up with drugs, and it got hold of her, the way it does. I won't go into all of it here. Some of it is hers to tell and some of it I still can't. I'll just say that we tried everything parents try, and some things we shouldn't have, and by the winter of 1997 she wasn't able to take care of her boys.

On a Thursday night in February of that year, a caseworker from the state called and asked if we could come get the boys. Lester was in the truck before I had my coat on. Austin was six and a half. Chad was three and still had his blue blanket. They came to us with one grocery sack of clothes, and Chad fell asleep on Lester's shoulder before we were out of the parking lot. We thought it would be a few weeks. It's been two and a half years.

Michele is in a treatment program again right now, her second, and she is doing better than she has in a long while. We pray for her every night, the boys and me, at bedtime. She calls on Sundays. The boys see her when it's safe for them, with the visits set up through the court, and they love their mama and she loves them. We don't say ugly things about her in this house, ever. She is their mother and she is our daughter, and she is sick, and we hope with everything we've got that she'll get well. If she does, we'll all sit down and figure out what's best for those boys together. If she doesn't, they have a home here as long as Lester and I are breathing.

I'll tell you the truth: I've been angry at her. I've been angry at God. I've been angry at Lester for being so calm, and Lester has been angry at me for crying in the car. Our pastor told me that anger and love can live in the same house, they just can't both have the good chair. I think about that a lot.

What Changed

* Money. Two boys eat like four. We had been putting a little back for retirement, and a good part of it went to beds, shoes, dentist bills and a lawyer. Lester's pension from the mill is small, which is why he drives the bus. We sold the bass boat. He grieved that boat, I won't lie.

* Our plans. We had a picture of the Grand Canyon on the refrigerator for ten years. We were going to buy a little camper when Lester retired and see all fifty states. The picture is still up there. Now it's got a spelling test and a drawing of a dinosaur stuck over it, and that's all right. The Grand Canyon will keep.

* Our friends. Some of the couples we used to eat out with after church drifted off. They're taking cruises and visiting their grandkids on the weekend and handing them back on Sunday night. I don't blame them. We just don't have much to talk about anymore, and we're in bed by nine. Other friends came closer, and we made new ones, most of them at the ball field and in our group.

* Our bodies. I'm not going to tell you chasing a six-year-old at 52 is easy. My knees told me so on the first day. But I'll also say I'm in better shape than I was at 49, and Lester's lost his belly from running bases.

* Joy we didn't expect. This is the part I most want you to hear. Homework at the kitchen table. Austin's laugh, which sounds exactly like his granddaddy's. Chad learning to read off the cereal box. Christmas morning with little ones in the house again. Bedtime prayers where Chad prays for the dog, the bus, his teacher, his mama and "all the worms." We didn't ask for this. But some days I believe the Lord gave us a second helping, and I mean to clean my plate.

Custody and the Law

Please read this first. We are not lawyers. Everything below is what we learned in our own case, in our own county in Tennessee, and the rules are different in every state and sometimes every county. Before you sign anything or go to court, talk to a lawyer. If you can't afford one, call your local Legal Aid office. Ours was a blessing. Some bar associations also have lawyers who'll help grandparents for little or nothing. Just ask.

When the boys first came to us, we had no legal papers at all. We couldn't sign a school form or a permission slip, and when Chad got an ear infection that first week, the doctor's office wasn't sure we could sign for him to be seen. That's when we learned there's a difference between having the children and having the legal right to make decisions for them. Here is the short of what we learned about the main choices:

Temporary custody. A court gives you the right to care for the child and make everyday decisions, like school and doctors, for now. The parent still has their parental rights and can go back to court to ask for the child back. This is what we got first, through the juvenile court, a few weeks after the boys came.

Guardianship. In many states, a court can name you the child's guardian, which gives you the legal authority to make decisions for the child, usually for a longer time. The parent's rights aren't ended. The names and the details vary a lot from state to state, so ask your lawyer what your state calls it and what it covers.

Adoption. Adoption is permanent. The parent's rights are ended, either because they agree or because a court ends them, and you become the child's legal parents for good. That's a big step, and a heavy one when it's your own child's rights being ended. We haven't done it. We pray we won't have to.

Whichever you have, make copies of your court papers and keep one in the car, one in your purse, one at the school and one at the doctor's office. You will be asked for them more times than you'd believe.

Enrolling in school. Our school asked for proof that we had the right to enroll the boys, plus their birth certificates, shot records and proof we live in the district. If you don't have custody papers yet, ask the school what they'll accept. Some states have a form, sometimes called a caregiver's affidavit, that lets a relative enroll a child, and some don't. Our principal was kind and let Austin start while we waited on the court. Tell the teacher what's going on at home, as much as you're comfortable with. Austin's first-grade teacher was the first person outside the family I told, and she watched out for him like a hawk.

Signing for the doctor. Once we had temporary custody, we could sign for the boys' doctor visits. Before that, the doctor wanted a signed consent from Michele, which we were able to get. If you can, ask the parent to sign a medical consent or power of attorney while you work on the rest. Ask your lawyer which form your state uses.

Help with Money and Doctors

I was too proud to ask about help for most of a year. Don't be like me. This help is for the children, not for you, and those children are owed it.

* A child-only grant. Even if you earn too much to get welfare yourself, the children may be able to get a monthly "child-only" grant, figured on their needs and not your income. In Tennessee the welfare program is called Families First. It isn't a lot, but it bought the boys' shoes and school clothes. Ask at your county welfare office for the child-only grant by name.

* Medicaid. Children living with grandparents can often get Medicaid on their own, even when the grandparents' income is too high. In Tennessee that's TennCare. Both boys are on it. It's paid for two sets of ear tubes and Austin's glasses.

* The new children's health insurance program. In 1997 Congress set up a new program to help states cover children in working families who earn too much for Medicaid but can't afford private insurance. Every state is setting up its own version, so ask your county health department or welfare office what your state has.

* School lunches. Ask the school about free or reduced-price lunch. I work in a cafeteria and I can tell you, nobody in the line knows who's paying what.

* The AARP Grandparent Information Center. This is a center just for grandparents raising grandchildren, run by AARP in Washington. They mailed us a packet of information and a list of support groups. That list is how we found the folks who started our group.

* Your church. Ours brought a bunk bed, a car seat for Chad and a booster for Austin, a month of casseroles and a lady who sat with the boys every Wednesday night so we could go to prayer meeting together. Let people help you. They want to.

Second Time Around

CoffeeSecond Time Around is a support group for grandparents and other relatives raising children. We meet the second Tuesday of every month at 6:30 in the evening at the county Extension office. Stephanie Fletcher, our Extension agent, lets us have the meeting room for free and helped us get started. While the grown-ups meet, teenagers from the 4-H club play games with the children in the next room, so bring the kids. There's always supper. Somebody always brings banana pudding.

We started in the fall of 1997 with six of us around one table. Now there are more than twenty families. Some meetings we have a speaker: a Legal Aid lawyer, a lady from the welfare office who explained the child-only grant, a school counselor who talked about children grieving a parent who's still living. Some meetings we just eat and talk and cry a little and laugh a lot. Rachel Gragg, who is 69 and raising three grandchildren, started the group. She's the one who told me, my very first night, "Honey, you're not too old. You're just tired. There's a difference." I've passed that on to every new grandma since.

Julius and Doris Ridenhour are raising their granddaughter, who's eleven and plays the clarinet like an angel. Pat Mathieu, who's 56 like Lester, is raising her grandson by herself since her husband passed, and she brings the best fried pies in the county. These folks are our family now. If you live near us, write me and I'll tell you how to find us. If you don't, look for a group near you, or start one. All it takes is a room and a coffee pot.

Lester's Corner: Coaching T-Ball at Fifty-Six

Brenda said I could have a corner. Here it is.

This spring the T-ball league was short a coach for Chad's team, and Chad volunteered me at the sign-up table before I could say a word. So at fifty-six I coached fourteen five- and six-year-olds called the Tigers. The other coaches were young enough to be my sons. One of the mothers asked me the first night whose grandpa I was. I said all of them, for the next ten weeks.

Things I learned. Bring orange slices. Bring more orange slices. Kirk will always run to third base first. Bryce will sit down in the outfield and pick clover, and that is fine, because Bryce is five. Nobody keeps score in T-ball except every single parent. My knees do not bend the way they did in 1965. A batting tee costs eleven dollars and is worth every penny.

I coached Michele's softball team, a long time ago. I wasn't as patient then. I was working double shifts and I was in a hurry for everything. I'm not in a hurry now. Maybe that's what the second time around is for.

We went 6 and 4, if anybody's counting. Chad got a hit every single game. The tee helps.

-- Lester

The questions we had that first month, and the answers we found >>
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